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As Australia dries, the world suffers

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The collapse of Australia's rice production is one of several factors contributing to a doubling of rice prices in the last three months — increases that have led the world's largest exporters to restrict exports severely, spurred panicked hoarding in Hong Kong and the Philippines, and set off violent protests in countries including Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Haiti, Indonesia, Italy, Ivory Coast, Mauritania, the Philippines, Thailand, Uzbekistan and Yemen.

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{"commentId":1700837,"authorDomain":"kodanda"}

A very mind-boggling situation the world is going to face, beginnings of which we alredy see today. Biofuel versus food is it only an economic problem?

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Reply#1 - Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":1701129,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

kd, I have to ask why are so many countries dependent on food imports. In a way, it puts food producing countries in an advantageous position.

Did you know Yemen uses most of its water for growing a drug?

Yemen uses about 90 per cent of its water to irrigate qat, a mild narcotic plant whose use dominates Yemeni society.

Someone may have their priorities askew.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":1701792,"authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}
kd, I have to ask why are so many countries dependent on food imports. In a way, it puts food producing countries in an advantageous position.

The Philippines used to be a rice granary of the world. What happened to our country? Short-sighted, unsound, probably corruption-rooted government policy of land conversion mostly began by Fidel Ramos and continued by the fake president, Gloria Arroyo.

It was really inconceivable for the Philippines back in the 1960s and 1970s that we will ever, ever import rice. I was in grade school in the early 70s and I remember darn well social studies lesson talking of how the Philippines is one of the rice food granaries of Asia/world. Our IRRI rice expertise taught our neighbors efficient rice production. Given the nearly 100% arable land we have, it is extremely sad that we are importing rice today. Of course, population explosion can also be blamed--but isn't the lack of family planning also a part of ill government planning?

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  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:06 AM EDT
{"commentId":1701808,"authorDomain":"myriver"}

Did you know Yemen uses most of its water for growing a drug?

Yemen uses about 90 per cent of its water to irrigate qat, a mild narcotic plant whose use dominates Yemeni society.

Someone may have their priorities askew.

It doesn't seem like such a wise move, does it?

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#2.2 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:19 AM EDT
{"commentId":1702875,"authorDomain":"kodanda"}
I have to ask why are so many countries dependent on food imports

Simple, Demand outstrips production. Any doubt?

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#2.3 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
{"commentId":1702909,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

Jesusa, smart growth planning just doesn't seem to be popular. We must take control of and manage our future better. I believe there are areas where the goal is producing as many kids as possible. Somewhere along the line, personal responsibility must gain acceptance, too.

I read an argument years ago that there are three main breadbaskets in the world -- the American Midwest, Ukraine and South America. According to that position, we are able to feed the world, and any unsustainable susistence farming should cease.

River, it's downright dumb.

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#2.4 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":1703937,"authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}
Jesusa, smart growth planning just doesn't seem to be popular. We must take control of and manage our future better. I believe there are areas where the goal is producing as many kids as possible. Somewhere along the line, personal responsibility must gain acceptance, too.

I believe I'm in full agreement with every point you made here.

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  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
{"commentId":1704017,"authorDomain":"myriver"}
I believe there are areas where the goal is producing as many kids as possible. Somewhere along the line, personal responsibility must gain acceptance, too.

The fields have to be prepared. The fields have to be planted. The fields have to be pollenated. The fields have to be watered and tended. The harvest has to be gathered.
There is a tremendous amount of time, energy, and money that goes into growing food. Countries who are having a such a tragic time feeding themselves need to plan their own fields. If they cannot, if they are not educated enough, then they need to be learning how. They cannot continue to be wholy dependent on handouts.

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#2.6 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":1705198,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

Farm families at one time were big before the mechanized age.

The Peace Corps and even missionaries have provided agricultural know-how and training. Those who subsistence farm must convert to sustainable farming. You're right -- they don't need hand-outs, they need a hand up. I know of a case involving Nakhokho's Good Samaritan School in Bunabumali, Uganda. They have three growing seasons but no money to buy garden seeds. I contacted a seed company after someone from our embassy gave me a lead, but they didn't respond.

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    #2.7 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1702926,"authorDomain":"kodanda"}

    Dear Backroads, to be frank I am not aware of the Yemeni society's dominating drug, but you see in parts of the world where non-food plants becomes more remunerative, farmers switch to non-food agriculture. Example: Golden triangle and golden crescent. In present instant the Bio fuel.
    Food imports can never be avoided in this global economic countdowns.

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    Reply#3 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1703091,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

    Yemen faces a harsh reality, kd. Continue with the euphoria or deal with the problem.

    As for bio-fuels, I think much of the world wants to get out from under OPEC's nasty thumb. OPEC is not sharing its wealth with the people; in fact, at least one producer uses its oil money to fund terror.

    There was a time when agrarian societies were far more self-sufficient. Those times are gone. I think food exporting and importing must continue. We just need more balance and long-range planning.

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    #3.1 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1702978,"authorDomain":"kodanda"}
    but isn't the lack of family planning also a part of ill government planning?

    Yes Jesusa Bernado, food security planning should be bracketed with family planning.

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1703945,"authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}

    Well put, kdpgrahi.

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    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1709038,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

    I understand the situation in Australia (which this article is about) to be quite complicated.

    They seem to have managed their land very badly in the very beginning - over-grazing by rabbits and goats, causing erosion and so on - and it wasn't top quality farm land even before that. And water has always been a bit of an issue. Like many other places where humans have scraped out agriculture somehow but it depended on reasonably temperate climate.

    Which seemingly is a thing of the past.

    In fact, it's not only 'ignorant third-world countries breeding like rabbits' as some seem to be saying - we are overly thick on the ground in most places. For instance, I doubt Europe has the ability to feed itself without imports or ever will again - too much housing is built on prime farm land.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1709910,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

    . . . too much housing is built on prime farm land.

    You are correct. Weak or no zoning, or zoning subverted. Here, they still haul off topsoil and render the "developed" ground inhospitable for cropping. Cluster housing is better, as is urban infill and brownfields. No good farmland should be "developed" ever again.

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    • 1 vote
    #5.1 - Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:51 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1710550,"authorDomain":"kodanda"}

    Backroads, Good farm lands are rapaciously diverted to other uses almost in every part of the world. Mainly in China and India it is rampant. Here also the short term economic gain works irrespective of eco geeks.

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    • 3 votes
    #5.2 - Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1710649,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

    What I refer to predates eco geeks. They came along later and they're often not guided by reason. Conservation and farmland protection have been around a very long time, although smart growth planning is more recently being pursued.

    Some still cannot fathom that farmland often already is the highest and best use of the land -- it is developed. Others say it must be "developed" into some other use. Right now, some 35 million acres here are set aside in the Conservation Reserve Program. I'd hate to think this land is pulled back into production, but that may become necessary.

    Global conservationism may be the best route to ply.

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    #5.3 - Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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